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I think this should start with Rapid Chargers that you usually park directly in front of – it should be feasible to have an ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) camera rigged up to these Rapid Chargers that reads the registration of every car that pulls up in front, cross-references that registration to the DVLA and if it’s not an EV vehicle a message should flash in red and clearly warn that the bay is reserved for EVs, and offender vehicles will incur a fine of (at least) £50 ! Easy ! An added bonus would be that for EV drivers who’ve signed up to the relevant CPO (Charge Point Operator) – this would remove the need to faff about with cards, key fobs and smart-phone apps – just “Charge and Go” based on well tested ANPR technology, and be billed automatically. Of course Tesla owners have been able to ‘Charge and Go’ for years already, I do think we could provide this for non-Tesla EV drivers here in the UK ,with well-proven ANPR technology.
JON BROOKS AKA BEARDY MCBEARDFACE
As a disabled driver I’m aware that we have suffered from a similar issue to ICE-ing for many years.
Whilst the simple answer is to camera or warden the chargers then fine non EV’s in the bays.
That said my answer for disabled bays is to do a ‘Derek’. It’s named after a good friends husband, who we sadly lost to cancer. He was the first to do this….I park across the back of the offender, lock my car then limp off or get on the Bat-Chariot (Mobility Scooter) to do as needed. I’m often greeted by a disgruntled car owner who normally never ever says a word. I give a polite wave as I drive off.
DAVID BYE IN BRISBANE
Sadly I’m afraid, after 65 years of witnessing human behaviour, the ONLY thing which will stop this sort of behaviour is instant fines, just as happens with speed cameras.
I don’t think for example that any kind of “shaming” will work, which tends to occur to a certain extent with wheelie/disabled car park spaces.
It’s unfortunate, but that’s the way of the world.
Charging spots could have an electric eye. If they detect a spot is taken but not charging after 5 minutes a big light or neon sign can flash, “This car is blocking an EV charger!”
Longer charging cords that enable EVs to park a few spaces away or even to enable EVs to block ICE vehicles (I had to do this once to get a DC Fast charge). Also, active ticketing of offending ICE vehicles.
Laws against parking an ICE vehicle in an EV charging spot don’t work. In my local area (covers three cities) the police will not respond to a report of this occurring.
Some time ago, I had the idea of a sensor in the car that would be tied to a receiver in the charger. If a car (ICE vehicle) pulls into the charging spot without this sensor, a LOUD siren would sound continually until the offending car is removed. This would have possibly been a good idea in the very early years of EVs. But, now there are too many EVs (and chargers) that would have to be fitted with these sensors and receivers.
Employ a “parking steward”. This creates jobs – tick, and makes the charging situation much easier for the following reasons:
- Confusion over how to use charge point
- Which app to use
- How to pay
- Being able to move the car when it gets enough charge and there’s others waiting to charge
- Stopping fossil gobblers from ICEing J
Here in Catalonia I hardly find any ICE car parking in a EV Charging spot.
I assume that is because we paint the parking spot area in green.
We’ve got used not to park in blue painted areas ( handicap parking spots) even if they are almost always empty and they are conveniently located, so people respect the new colored areas also.
In an age where almost every shopping outlet’s car park, is either owned or managed by a parking company; and in some hotels too. Together with reg. plate recognition and cameras, the company issues fines based on over stay entry-exit times. Typically between £75 to £125 per infraction.
I’ve often wondered why, they can’t do the same or similar, for erroneously parking in ‘Parent & Young Child’ or ‘Disabled’ bays. And recently adding ICEing to the list. Inconsiderate people often only learn or change their behaviour, if they’re hurt in a way they can’t avoid. Such as being fined by a private company they can’t bargain with.
Make it a ticketable/towable offense. We’ve got no shortage of meter maids or business-chasing tow trucks in this world happy for new revenue streams.
Like parking in a handicapped zone, it should be a $300 per SPACE blocked ticket… If you block 3, it costs you 900 clams!
This would be quick revenues for cash starved cities, encouraging ticketing when we call… Phone #s and fines should be posted at all charger zones.
We should be able to phone it in with pictures of the license plate… Which can be verified as a non EV in minutes.
I’m in a multiple sclerosis support group and one of our hot topics has been people parking in handicapped spaces. Some local cities have started a program to train people to do citizen ticketing of cars which are clearly NOT for the disabled. I think this would be s good deterrent for ICE vehicles too. It’s a win-win situation- the police get some extra funds, and it would discourage people from parking in EV spaces.
Best way is to block the space with a green EV cone. Physically blocking the bay has to be best way as drivers are to lazy to read signs and too lazy to get out and move it.
Ev drivers wants a charge so will be out like lightning to move and replace it.
STEP 1) Adopt INTERNATIONAL standards for marking EV charging spots and mandate the markings. Standard signage, painted ground color, Flashing SOLAR powered LED signs. The point is it will become familiar to all. You can go into a McDonalds anywhere in the world and you can comfortable navigate (Corporate identify) we need EV Charging identity.
Step 2) Leverage local government to assist with education. My town has a newsletter and web page. Spread the word, explain the spots and the benefits to the community health by eliminating ICE vehicles. I live in rural Pennsylvania – Diesel pickups are as common and annoying as ants at a picnic.
Step 3) Impose fines at a local level, again making local government part of the solution, with mandate the dollars go to EV spot marking, signage and education.
There should be an alarm and flashing light on the charger. This would be activated if someone parked but didn’t start charging within 5 mins. The alarm could also go off after 30 mins if a charging session had stopped but not unplugged. This would prevent people ICEing and people parking without charging. If the alarm was obnoxious enough people wouldn’t ignore it. Constructive? Not sure.
I think you had it right , a stiff fine wound help. Not sure if you count it as constructive but it’s effective 🙂 Signs are VERY clear and chargers usually further away so there’s really no excuse.
With a 300$(or £) fine , use 50 to pay for enforcement and donate the rest to non-profit that promotes EVs (maybe public charging infrastructure). Ticket should include a note thanking parker for their donation to clean air.
First of all, site the EV charging spots in a location which is not a temptation for other drivers i.e. avoid right outside a store front. Leave such sites for those who really need it, like disabled drivers.
Next have an automatic barrier arm to give restricted access to the EV charger area, this would be linked to an auto licence plate recognition system a bit like they have on automatic road toll booths or average speed detection zones. If the licence plate links up with a vehicle recognised as a registered EV in the national vehicle database (this would be the DVLA in the UK), then the barrier is raised. If an ICE approaches, the barrier will remain down, thus making it virtually idiot proof for an ICE to ‘accidentally’ park in the EV charging spot.
1) Put the chargers at the end of the car park away from the desirable spots next to the shops. Tesla tends to do this with their superchargers at motorway service stations, people tend to park in EV charging bays because it’s convenient, make it so they aren’t.
2) I spotted this at the Asda in St. Austell today, traffic cones at the entrance to the EV charging bays. Very busy car park, bays right next to the store and none were Iced. Pictures available on plugshare.
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As EVs become more popular do you think there’s still a camaraderie among EV drivers?
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One thought on “28 July 2019 | MG Has 750 Orders For ZS EV, Why Tesla Says ‘Your Move’ and and Question Of The Week Answers”
We placed a reservation for an MGZS EV online on 21st July and were given a reference number: EV05xxx (last 3 digits cancelled out). To me, this would indicate 5,000+ orders. So 750+ orders sounds low. What I don’t know, is whether or not all of these were UK reservations or not, but I presumed so at the time and felt gutted to have missed-out on being one of the first thousand orders.