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Well good morning, good afternoon and good evening, wherever you are in the world, hello and welcome to the Sunday 23rd September edition of EV News Daily. It’s Martyn Lee here with the news you need to know about electric cars and the move towards sustainable transport.
Thank you to MYEV.com for helping make this show, they’ve built the first marketplace specifically for Electric Vehicles. It’s a totally free marketplace that simplifies the buying and selling process, and help you learn about EVs along the way too.
FREE SUPERCHARGING IS…BACK!
- “A source familiar with the matter told Electrek that Tesla informed its sales staff that a referral code can still give free unlimited Supercharging to buyers of inventory Model S and Model X vehicles, as well as Model 3 Performance vehicles, until the end of the month, which coincides with the end of the quarter.” reports Fred at Electrek: “Non-performance Model 3 can also get 1 year of free Supercharging if they buy with a referral code and take delivery by the end of the month. The source says that Tesla made large inventories of those vehicles that are currently unmatched with custom orders, which is the main way for Tesla buyers to get vehicles.”
PEUGEOT E-LEGEND CONCEPT IS AN ELECTRIC TAKE ON A CLASSIC COUPE
- “We’re approaching the Paris Motor Show once again, and Peugeot is kicking off the show with a stunning coupe. It’s called the Peugeot E-Legend, and it blends modern Peugeot car design with that of the classic 504 coupe from the ’60s and ’70s. And as you might’ve guessed from the name, it’s fully electric, but it also supports both driver control and autonomous driving.” according to Joel at Autoblog: “Design-wise, the closest connection between the E-Legend and its 504 inspiration is the roofline. It has the same trapezoidal shape with sharp corners. The thin pillars and large glass area are classic, too. The long nose and shorter rear deck also tie the two together. Modern Peugeot design comes in primarily with the lighting.”
- “Perfectly incorporated into a realistic vision of the brand’s energy transition, PEUGEOT e-LEGEND CONCEPT is powered by a 100% electric power train. With 100 kWh batteries, the engine reaches 800 Nm torque and 340 Kw power distributed to the four-wheel drive. This level of performance makes it possible to travel 0/100 km/h in less than 4s and reach a maximum speed of 220Km/h. The range is 600 km according to the WLTP protocol of which 500 km are accessible in 25 minutes thanks to a fast recharge. PEUGEOT e-LEGEND CONCEPT cultivates the zero technological constraint mindset by offering induction charging.”
DASHCAM COMING TO TESLA
- “Elon Musk announced earlier this year that there will be a new feature, enabling the use of cameras in Tesla cars for dashcam-like playback. The timeframe for the feature was moved from a “few months” in June to “soon” in September as part of the V9 over-the-air software update.” writes Mark Kane for InsdieEVs: “However, some of the Tesla owners are disappointed and disheartened of further waiting and are considering third-party dashcams, as it would be handy to be able to record not only an accident but also vandals. Elon Musk responded the other day: “Good news on this front. Tesla engineering rallied & this will be part of V9. Going through final testing now.”
YOUR ANSWERS TO QUESTION OF THE WEEK – HOW DID YOU BUY YOUR ELECTRIC CAR?
I’m on my second leaf now after buying my first in March 2015. It was a big thing for me as I’d never owned a new car before. I’d done an extended test drive of 7 days after hearing they were on offer from a guy in my office that had just booked one, I honestly had no intention of buying, I was thinking “7 days free motoring and a play in a very different car? Why not!” The guy that handed over the demo leaf told me it had 4 motors, one in each wheel and that is would do 130miles no problem. Oh dear! Good start I thought.
But anyway, on day 2 or 3 of using it like my normal transport I started to think “hey you know something! this could really work for me!”
So by the time I had to take it back I was totally converted and looking for a deal!
Then the funny stuff started, the dealer tried to get me in a qashqai, told me horror stories about batteries, then said rapid charges would kill the battery, but I pushed for the deal I wanted on a brand new Tekna, I’d have it on new registration day.
When I turned up on pickup day the excitement soon vanished when I saw an Acenta not a tekna, parked out the front with the reg plate they’d text me a few days earlier.
Anyway it took a long time to sort out, my first new car purchase had threatened to put me off them for life.
My second leaf purchase in 2017 at a different dealer couldn’t have been more smooth. They sorted the hand back of my old leaf, made me feel really looked after, and I got the car I’d asked for.
I’ll never go back to legacy cars, EV is the only car for me.
Brian Weatherall, UK Nissan LEAF Owners Group
I bought my first EV, a second hand 2016 Nissan Leaf Tekna (24kWh), here in the UK last December. I initially started discussions with one main dealer, the salesman there was keen to sell me a Leaf, and knew the basics, but really didn’t fully understand EVs (or Leafs) at all. In particular I realise now that none of them had a clue about identifying whether a Leaf had the uprated 6.6kWh charger, or not. After being sent lots of potential cars by the dealer on email I started using CarGurus.com to identify well-priced Leafs across the UK. I found this a really good online resource. I also checked out Jonathan Porterfield’s Eco-Cars.Net.
In retrospect, buying from a main dealer was an un-necessary precaution as in 10months driving I really haven’t had any problems at all and have had absolutely no reason to go back to the dealer. Like a lot of Leaf drivers – my Leaf ‘just works’, unlike the myriad of minor (or major) problems you can get with an ICE car.
Went for test drives in the new Leaf and the Zoe at local dealers in East London. Cars were ready, charged up and they accompanied me for a few laps of the local area with my wife and son in the back. Both quite positive and tried to answer my questions. However both were taken aback that I didn’t have off-road parking and wanted to buy an EV. Didn’t really know what to tell me, and in the case of Nissan, obviously thought I was a lost cause because he never followed up. In the end I chose to lease the 2018 Leaf from the excellent drive-electric. Placed my booking and a couple of weeks later a brand new stock Leaf in my chosen colour was driven to my house.
I bought my Zoe at a Renault dealership in Borås, Sweden, close to where I live. There was an ad out for a used one with the shorter range, but I ended up buying a brand new one instead, because in Sweden there’s a 6000 euro incentive. The salesperson was quite knowledgeable about the Zoe and there was no problem borrowing one for a long test drive.
I researched for a month, then went to the local dealer to test drive. The test was very nice and helped alot with convincing my girlfriend to close the deal.
The dealer had just received a shipment of Zoe Intense with the “old” motor so instead of buying the life edition, we got the intense for almost the same price. The 92Hp motor is still better than what we had so it was a find for us.
I contacted the dealers in my local area and registered my interest, though they had no information.
I found that anything I needed to know I had to find out myself and on most occasions I always knew more than they did.
The one thing that a dealer did that assisted me in getting the car was asking if I wanted to put a deposit down, which I did back in April. Though this is of course normal practice for getting a pre-sale.
Once the ClickToBuy process was announced the deposit I had placed eventually allowed me to be towards the front of the queue, which was fortunate since the online procedure was not able to cope with the volume of orders placed on the Kona’s UK release, though Hyundai had previously stated it would.
THE WIND MILLER
I ended up getting a 2012 LEAF 3 years ago because I was browsing a car sales website. The dealer rang me up and asked me if I was interested. I couldn’t really afford the $34,000 asking price fortunately, because I am terrible at negotiating. At that price I was offered 0% financing which sounded great but I wasn’t prepared to pay that much. Over the next week the dealer rang me each day slowly reducing the price . Finally after refusing many offers he asked what I was prepared to pay which was ) $30,000. I love my Leaf. It is the best car I have ever owned. I have learned a lot about dealer shenanigans from YouTube since then. So if I ever go to a dealer again, I will be more prepared.
In September 2017, after considering and dismissing the Ioniq Hybrid and the PHEV options, we returned to the dealer to place an order for the Ioniq Electric in Blazing Yellow. Delivery was stated as August 2018 for our preferred configuration, however we could have the same configuration minus sunroof in April due to a cancelled order. So we went with that. In October, so a month later we had a call saying they would have one at the end of December if we wanted to take it. In the end we collected our car “the Heart of Gold” on 27th November.
I bought a Renault Zoe with the 41 KWh battery in August 2017.
I bought it from my local dealer. Having heard that the 41KWh and 22KWh battery packs were the same physical size, I was thinking that I might try buying a second hand 22kWh Zoe and having the battery replaced. My local Renault dealer had two secondhand 22kwh Zoe’s in stock. It turned out that Renault don’t have enough batteries to do the battery swap/upgrade thing yet even though it is technically possible. In the course of the test drive the guy from the dealer suggested that they could do me a good deal on the demo car that we were driving … It was 6 months old and had done 3,000 miles of driving around the block that we were driving around. It had lots of little extras like a reversing camera – it would have cost £24k for a new one with those features. They sold it to be for £14k. I am paying for the standard Renault battery leasing as well.
Bought 1 year old used from main dealer.
It had been used as daily commute vehicle by salesman so had 14k miles (high for a 1 year ev).
Easily knocked 2000 off the asking price, suspect could have pushed for more.
I certainly knew more about the car than they did. They thought longer range off motorway was due to ability to regen. They tried to sell lots of add on finance products which I managed to avoid.
Car was clean and very presentable. Being an up market brand I received a quality of hand over is expected so no problem there.
And thanks to MYEV.com they’ve set us another Question Of The Week. Keep your comments coming in on email and YouTube…
How do you charge at home? What charger have you got? Who installed it? Was it something which came with a new car or did you arrange yourself? And if you want to share, how much did it cost and did you get any incentives?
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