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Well good morning, good afternoon and good evening, wherever you are in the world, hello and welcome to the Sunday 9th September edition of EV News Daily. It’s Martyn Lee here with the news you need to know about electric cars and the move towards sustainable transport.
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So what did I miss? Tesla’s boss smoked something which for him in trouble, Mercedes-Benz boss unveiled their first crack as a proper electric SUV and Jaguar’s boss says there aren’t enough batteries to go round.
Electric Cars In Norway
According to the World Economic Forum: “The Nordic countries are racing ahead when it comes to electric transformation. For instance, of all the cars sold in Norway this year, almost half were electric. By June 2018, 47% of all new cars sold were either plug-in hybrid or battery powered electric vehicles. Drivers benefit from free parking and free charging in public places and no annual road tax.
Road toll charges are waived and electric cars are allowed to use bus lanes. Norway also has the world’s largest fast-charging station, capable of charging up to 28 vehicles at a time in around half an hour. Oslo is known as the EV capital of the world because of its high proportion of electric vehicles.”
And a recent Bloomberg article “It took Norway about a decade to reach six percent electric vehicle sales but then only five years to go from 6 percent to 47 percent. Norway is a special case, given that the country has generous incentives that aren’t replicated elsewhere. It does show, though, that inflection points occur, and when they do, markets can change quickly.”
Over the next few shows I’ll bring you my first hand impressions of EV adoption in Norway and what it’s like in a country where EV’s are so commonplace, after a few days it stops becoming a novelty to see one.
We asked YOU…China reach one million first, Europe just reached one million, and USA is soon hit the one million EVs on the road. What is stopping you? And if you’re an electric driver, why didn’t you do it quicker?
I currently do not own an EV but am chomping at the bit to get one! The main thing that’s currently stopping me is unfortunately not having the ability to charge at home (near High Wycombe). I do not have a driveway and local parking is not suitable for charging points. Currently, the nearest place to charge is a 10 minute drive and it only has 2 stations that are sometimes ‘out of order’. It feels like in the near future the charging infrastructure will get just that little more established to tip people, like myself, over the edge to buy an EV. It feels tantalisingly close and I can’t wait.
I bought my last car two years ago. I have a long commute (100 miles round trip) so I would want a car with at least 200+ miles range. Two years ago, the only cars that could do that were Teslas and I couldn’t afford a car at £70k. Even the cheap 2nd had cars were £40k which were still a bit expensive.
Given the above – I bought a decent hybrid which now gives me 60+ M.P.G. and saves me $600 in fuel per year. My next car will almost certainly be an electric car most likely a Tesla Model 3 but I am waiting to find out how much it will be before I commit.
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Prohibiting – initial cost for a vehicle, that will cover my average daily mileage; and periodical long journey, (transporting someone who wouldn’t be able to hang around for an extra 1-2hrs. for extra en route charging).
So I need a vehicle that can do 200-230mi on single charge. And may be called upon to do the return journey in less than 24hrs., also in one go. So there’s only a few EVs that fit that profile:
- Tesla_ I can’t afford
- Bolt_ can’t get it in the UK and even if I could, they only come in left-hand drive
- I-PACE_ I can’t afford, plus it may not actually have a real+200mi range
- Kona_ a possible but the load space for daily use, is somewhat limited
- Niro_ also a possible, as the potential range sounds good and the load space is more inline with my daily needs. But it’s not in the UK yet & prices are unknown. Plus, even though Kia give a 7yr. warranty on part of their cars. They do tend rust easily; typically 3yr. old they start to rust; 5yrs. and they’re a rust buckets; 7yrs…. you’d be lucky to get one that would last that long. There’s a reason why you seldom see an old UK registered Kia.
What is stopping me is car selection. I want an all-wheel drive EV that’s like a Honda CRV that costs the same as a CRV. Perhaps that might be the Model Y?
It was Top Gear that put me off EV’s, Clarkson and the gang had such a negative slant on them and I foolishly believed it, then I started following some real EV owners on YouTube and realised there was a far more positive flip-side. Got a second hand Leaf 18 months ago, love the car, never run out of charge or had trouble charging, will never buy another ICE car … ever.
What’s stopping me, the lack of availability of affordable EVs in Australia, BMW’s i3 expensive and Tesla’s model s , extremely expensive. That’s our current choices, and as this is Australia, no incentive to buy an EV.
The thing that is holding me back from buying a BEV right now is I already have a car and the lease does not end till 2020, but since I live in an apartment that has no charging system it makes it in practical for me to buy a BEV at this time.
Tesla stopped me to buy EV for 2+ years. I did not see anything better especially Autopilot and FSD capability. I usually keep a car for 5+ years so I thought in 2023+ who want to buy ICE without level 3+ autonomy when I trade in?
the thing that stopped me from getting my first electric vehicle was the fact that we had two cars in our family and they were both paid off, so the only thing we were paying for it was the running costs. Fortunately, one of our two vehicles was wrecked and we were in the position of needing to buy a new vehicle. Since I’ve been following the electric vehicle movement for many years now I was keenly aware of the high cost of electric vehicles, even though they are coming down quite a bit. There was no way that on my modest income I could afford an electric vehicle. However, I could afford a used electric vehicle. I happened to find a gem of a vehicle and we’ll have it entirely paid off in one year after the initial purchase. Furthermore, after owning it for another 10 years the fuel and maintenance savings will have entirely paid for the original purchase price of the vehicle. After that, we will hand it down to our eldest child when she becomes a licensed driver and then we will hopefully get our Tesla – a long time dream of mine.
As a BEV owner now, what slowed me buying was;
#1 Vehicle purchase price (we know it’s more up front, less over time, just had to save enough for it to be a smart buy)
#2 Charging availability for long distance travel (it finally expanded enough to make me comfortable in 2017)
#3 General acceptance of the EV movement, that we wouldn’t be stranded with a tech that wasn’t going to take hold and continue to grow. Was EV vs Hydrogen gonna be Betamax vs VHS again? And who would win? Tesla settled that question sufficiently to me last year when they showed Roadster 2 and the Semi.
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Where do you go for information when considering buying an EV, or researching a specific make and model. Is there one trusted source you use, or do you use everything from news sites like InsideEVs, to YouTube vlogs to auto makers official website pages. What about when you want to know about things like charging or incentives?
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2 thought on “09 September 2018 | Back From Vacation, Thoughts On EV Tipping Points and Question Of The Week”
Per your question about EV sources: I now own a 2017 VW e-Golf (made possible by US government tax credit of $7500 and also a $7500 discount off the MSRP, courtesy of VW: otherwise, I would not be able to afford an EV purchase) and previously a leased 2015 e-Golf (inexpensive thanks to government tax credits and cash rebates). I get a lot of e-Golf technical/maintenance/car oddities info from the SpeakEV website and myvwegolf websites. For general EV news, I view Fully Charged, Transport Evolved, Cnet car reviews and Tom Voelk car reviews.. Mark Vaughn at Autoweek is an EV enthusiast journalist who also writes good articles about production EVs.
For charging, I primary use Plugshare but also use the Chargepoint and EVgo data available on an iPhone app and their websites.
Per your comment about driving up to a station and finding it broken: I have found EVgo to much faster in their DCFC station maintenance than Chargepoint. Chargepoint’s business model means they can only remind the station owner to repair a station. Sadly, I come upon many, many broken Chargepoint DCFC stations (the type I think MUST be operational because EV drivers rely on DCFCs for long distance travel), have called Chargepoint, whereupon they inform me of their business model and how they can’t help, along with a suggestion to spend 4 to 5 hours at a L2 station. Grrrrrr!! EVgo owns and operates their stations, so while a broken station may not be fixed immediately, EVgo immediately acknowledges any problems and works on getting the station back on line within a week or so. I hope Electrify America keeps their stations in good nick. I have yet to seen on in the SF Bay Area, where I live.
For L2 stations, there are usually enough at a location that one broken unit isn’t a show stopper.
It’s all your fault! I’ve been listening to your podcast for a year. I’m an American living in France since 2006. Your podcast convinced me that it was now time to show my support for clean, quiet “voitures”. I placed my order last week for a Zoe Q90 ZE40. In France, all buyers are entitled to a 6000 euro reduction in price when you purchase an electric car. And, a free wallbox installation at your home or garage. Mine will arrive in March. Thanks for contributing to an important change in the way we travel. I look forward to the day when the noise and smell from “ice” cars is just a memory!
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